From: Aaron J. Grier Date: 07:00 on 30 Sep 2005 Subject: automatic bug reporting I don't run thunderbird. but a friend of mine does. thunderbird is crashing during exit, which throws up a dialogue box which must be attended to. "do you really want to exit?"
From: David Champion Date: 07:45 on 30 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: automatic bug reporting * On 2005.09.30, in <20050930060044.GH7852@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>, * "Aaron J. Grier" <agrier@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > thunderbird is crashing during exit, which throws up a dialogue box > which must be attended to. > > "do you really want to exit?" Apparently the Mozilla Foundation, or whatever moniker of implied respectability they're calling themselves lately, has learned its manners of irony from "Heave Ho" Ballmer & co. This is strikingly reminiscent of ~"Windows has detected that you pushed the power switch. Please do not push the power switch; choose 'turn off my computer' and allow Windows Shutdown to push the power switch for you. This will save your valuable data."~ Or whatever it is that it says when you reboot after it crashes and destroys your valuable data. KMA, POS. [Not that it stops me, but] really it's too harsh to post about it here, on hates-software; for without such hateful software, I would never have learned this important lesson: never possess valuable data that you can neither print on a 3x5 note card nor remember yourself. This is roughly half the reason I cannot bring myself to reply upon PGP even in my mail, which I largely recall: I'd have to trust a computer, and look what sort of record those have. Is A6 the ISO rough equivalent of a 3x5 (inch) card? Among ISO standards, this is one I increasingly respect (if not enjoy), as though it were metric. I feel dirty playing metric, but deep in my soul I know it has a more bedrock foundation than the span of Henry IV's stride. Likewise ISO paper, what with its natural-number properties and stuff. How can you help feeling drawn to a square root of a prime? I tell you, it has a simplicity that you can only fully appreciate if you're a type A reductionist, or you really believe that extraterrestials will know us by our number theory. Or maybe those are idempotent. Where's my tumbler?
From: Ann Barcomb Date: 08:49 on 30 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: automatic bug reporting On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, David Champion wrote: [...] > Apparently the Mozilla Foundation, or whatever moniker of implied > respectability they're calling themselves lately, has learned its > manners of irony from "Heave Ho" Ballmer & co. This is strikingly > reminiscent of ~"Windows has detected that you pushed the power switch. > Please do not push the power switch; choose 'turn off my computer' and > allow Windows Shutdown to push the power switch for you. This will save > your valuable data."~ Or whatever it is that it says when you reboot > after it crashes and destroys your valuable data. At work I have a Windows machine. When I leave work I tell it to shut down, then turn off the monitor and leave. A couple of times I've come back the next day to see the computer still on with a message telling me that it couldn't launch a program because Windows is shutting down. There's an 'ok' dialog and after I click it it finishes the shutdown (those times that it isn't frozen and in need of a hard reboot, that is). Now why would I care about starting an application if I was shutting down the computer? And wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that if you don't get acknowlegement within a certain period (~5 minutes?) that the user assumed you did what you were supposed to do and left the room? Especially if there isn't anything the user can do other than agree...why not give a status message at the next bootup if it's that important (although it isn't)?
From: Aaron Crane Date: 09:57 on 30 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: automatic bug reporting David Champion writes: > Is A6 the ISO rough equivalent of a 3x5 (inch) card? 3×5-inch cards have an area of 76.2 × 127 = 9677.4 mm². A6 has an area of 105 × 148 = 15540 mm²; on the other hand, A7 has an area of 74 × 105 = 7770 mm². Neither of those matches very well in either dimensions or area. B7 is a much closer match; it's 88 × 125 = 11000 mm². http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216 has a pretty diagram of the ISO A sizes.
From: David Champion Date: 16:47 on 30 Sep 2005 Subject: Re: automatic bug reporting * On 2005.09.30, in <20050930085748.GP17546@xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, * "Aaron Crane" <hateful@xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote: > > B7 is a much closer match; it's 88 × 125 = 11000 mm². > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216 has a pretty diagram of the ISO A > sizes. Thanks. I was only dimly aware of the B series; this does fit much more nicely.
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